thimbleful of amontillado: things and stuff: elijahlain replied to your post: too real, man.And this is why...

01:48 29th Dec 2011

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things and stuff: elijahlain replied to your post: too real, man.And this is why...

elijahlain replied to your post: too real, man.

And this is why independence and individualism are hallmarks of INTJs. “I just realize how much of their own rationalization goes into it.” — perfect. I find so few people recognize the equal legitimacy of rationalization that…

That’s what I get for trying to hastily say something in less than 180 characters!

I didn’t mean to suggest that INTJs have a particular, absolute, fixed standard to value others autonomy and individualism. I meant to conjecture that this is a position that INTJs have a tendency to adopt. (Due to, presumably, their functions.) I didn’t mean to suggest that you (or INTJs) adopt a position of “every perspective and position is equally valid, everything is subjective, we all are traveling on a different path toward the same truth..” Because, as you said, there are a neverending list of instances where I (and INTJs, I’m sure) have disagreed with a person’s position or the manner in which they developed it.

My understanding is more along the lines that INTJs have a functionally-influenced respect for, not only different modes of perception, but different logic structures/pathways and values as well. Sure, their structures of sequences may often contain fallacies, and perhaps they don’t adequately reflect realities around them, but that’s besides the point. Can anyone—you or I—claim to be without any mistaken views of reality or flaws in our thought patterns?

So, the way I tie this to the ideas of independence or individualism is by looking how this “respect for other modes of perception, rationalization, and the values that underly them” is manifested. Completely on my own observations, I feel as though because INTJs have an understanding of the different modes of etc etc etc, they demand a similar understanding or respect from others. Because the respect other individuals’ varying mode of rationalization, they expect respect for their own individual mode of rationalization. Maybe the connection is light, but I feel as though this would contribute toward a desire to be considered on an individual basis, independent of your experience with others.

I’ve heard it said that there is an over-representation of INTJs in libertarian political philosophy. Libertarianism, of course, is a heavily individualistic philosophy. (And, I would say, tends to be comprehensively logical.) I guess.. do you hold any stock in the sentiment that INTJs tend to be independent and individualistic? If so, where do you think that springs from?